[So they are able to erase painful memeories now, I wonder what that would mean for us... For sure they can kill off all the fear emotion from someone so they are able to make a super soldier soon. No fear of anything not even death. I wonder what kind of things they have plan for the mass with something like this. I mean if they can erase painful memories now they would also be able to remove memories in general soon. What best way to get the best cattle is to erase all this programming and reprogram it to do something else. Sweet this goes hand in hand with programming and they already got that down to a science. Do I see the making of the movie total recall? erase your memory of a shitty life and lets put in place of that what a great life you have.]
Should painful memories be erased?
Toronto researchers have been able to do it in traumatized mice
Mar 13, 2009 04:30 AM
Mar 13, 2009 04:30 AM
Joseph Hall
Health Reporter
Something horrible happens. A child is lost. A bomb goes off. A car goes out of control.
And deep in the brain, in the lateral amygdala region, a scattered set of neurons come to life and begin to vibrate with fear.
Through an ingenious set of experiments, a group of researchers at Toronto's Hospital for Sick Children have not only located these terror-laden brain cells in mice, but erased them – along with the frightening memories they stored.
While our imaginations have long been captivated by the idea of altering memory – to sinister effect in George Orwell's 1984 and poignantly in the film Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind – this research suggests a more therapeutic use.
The study, which appears today in the journal Science, may hold out the hope that terrifying memories one day might be erased before they can fester into such conditions as post-traumatic stress disorder.
While the sights and sounds of a blast or crash would stay intact, the memory of the fear it caused could conceivably be removed, the researchers suggest.
"You wouldn't want to completely get rid of all aspects of a memory," says Dr. Michael Salter, head of the Neurosciences & Mental Health program at the hospital.
"To help people with these kinds of post-traumatic stress disorders ... you might just want to minimize the emotional association between the memory and the highly disruptive and negative emotions that people have in this context."
He says the research may well conjure "Orwellian" notions of thought control, "but that's not really the goal of this. The idea would be (to use it) in a therapeutic way."
Salter was not involved in writing the paper, but was speaking on behalf of senior author Sheena Josselyn, a Sick Kids scientist who politely declined an interview request because she had "just gone into labour." Josselyn and her co-author husband, Paul Frankland, do much of their work in Salter's program.
Salter says the fear-storing neurons found in the mice are almost certainly located in the same amygdala region in human brains and work in much the same way.
The study, he says, suggests that only those amygdala neurons that express high levels of a brain protein known as CREB – about 10 to 20 per cent of the cells in the region – are involved in storing fearful memories.
Known as the universal memory molecule, CREB is essential in allowing brain cells to lay down memories of all kinds.
The researchers were able to selectively stimulate the specific fear-storing neurons by introducing a virus that triggered this CREB and turned the cells on.
After stimulating their CREB-rich cells, the mice were played a tone accompanied by an electrical shock to their feet, establishing a memory of fear to that specific sound in the excited cells.
A second virus was then introduced that migrated specifically to the CREB-expressing neurons and made them susceptible to a diphtheria toxin. When the toxin was injected, it killed the neurons where the fearful memory was stored.
Josselyn stressed in an earlier podcast interview conducted by the journal that the experiment did not destroy the brain's entire capacity to remember fear, only the specific recollection of the shocking tone.
Indeed, when exposed to the same tone and shock combination again, the mice were able to relearn their wariness of the sound.
Injecting diphtheria toxins to kill brain cells in humans would never be an acceptable therapy, Salter says. But there could be medicinal methods to disrupt the natural biochemical pathways that turn on the CREB mechanism and prevent fearful memories from taking root.
The scientist whose work in reconsolidating memory inspired the film Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind said Josselyn's team has found "one of the Holy Grails" of memory work.
"The elegance in this one, which goes orders of magnitude beyond other studies, is that now they didn't do something that was global to all neurons in the lateral nucleus," said Karim Nader, professor of neuroscience at McGill University. "They can kill only the neurons that they think express the memory."
In the film, ex-lovers played by Jim Carrey and Kate Winslet elect to have their memories of each other erased after their relationship sours. Despite the treatment, however, they eventually reunite.
Another great article from DeKn.
ReplyDeleteIsn't that amazing that they conclude such a scientific article with a movie as an example? We now know the real name of the tune but this is obviously pure induction for the sheeple: “In the film “Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind”, ex-lovers played by Jim Carrey and Kate Winslet elect to have their memories of each other erased after their relationship sours. Despite the treatment, however, they eventually reunite.” What the fuck people are worrying about, if Jim and kate can reunite after having their memories erased, everything’s fine!!! (+ A scientist inspired the movie so it must be true).
They have warned us big time, you pointed out quite rightly “total recall”, I don’t have names that comes to my mind right now but movies on that subject are almost countless.
Another thing they do EVERYTIME is underlining the fact that they would use it in a practical or therapeutic way of some sort. Lol! Like the GMO are meant to feed everyone or the microchips are meant to facilitate your everyday life or your hospitalizations!! ("but that's not really the goal of this. The idea would be to use it in a therapeutic way.")
Reminds me of the article on DJ’s blog “The world is a computer”, we are just like microships ourselves or transistors, we are going to be reprogrammed in a way or another.
Cheers.
LOL yeah that makes me laugh too "Therapeutic ways" that is like saying what if I place a 1kg of coke in front of a coke addict what will he/she do? would he not help himself or will he just say no?
ReplyDeleteThat was priceless moment When I first read the news I was like that sounds funny better post this up and see what other ideas other have about this. I feel funny about this news. Now I know what it was it was that word "Therapeutic way" that word should not even belong haha.
DeKn:Enlighten
The brain can already "erase" disturbing memories on its own...
ReplyDeleteBut nooooo, moranic bacteria today refuse to discover human self-capabilities on their own. Instead, with just like everything else today, they will look for SOMEONE else to do it for them. THEY BEG TO BE RULED, CONTROLLED, ENSLAVED! THEY ARE DESERVING OF THEIR FATE!
The bacteria have a problem and cant solve it on their own. fucking fools deserve to be reprogrammed.
ReplyDeleteI can just see the adds on big screens in malls and in the centre of cities.
ReplyDelete"Do you fear thought control? No problem, we can take that fear away!"
Crazy world, though I am curious to view it in 50 years.
Dante_Altair i do agree. People have no brains to begin with or should i say, they are enslaved by the concept of good and evil. If they feel like they've been traumatized by some shocking event they'll let that mental cancer destroy the sponge they have for a brain (moran), they'll keep disturbing memories inside of them without trying to erase it by themselves cuz they would think it's "bad" to do so, self-guiltiness i would call it.
ReplyDelete^^ Komar: Yes for sure you can do it yourself. I've tried it on myself and it works. I am able to calm those traumatized moment in my life and it works. But most people never even bother to learn how to understand themselves in the inside. Let along trying to help themselves to get rid of shocking events. I've notice in myself that if you link different emotion to that shocking memory you will lower that shock value of that shocking moment in your memory. Do it enough time and that memory gets place in the background almost nonexistent. I am still experimenting with myself on doing stuff like that. Sometime it works sometime it doesn't.
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